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I agree, most of what I’m planning is reversible and I don’t think many would object to wheel arch louvres but being realistic though none of the Cup 260 mods would add value to it either - usual story with mods. Great value for any other Cup 260 obsessives out there one day, if there are any!

Yes as with watches appeal of digital will fade and industry will turn back to analog dials and physical buttons. In ten years the Emira dash will look more dated than Evora one.

It's exactly that, just checking that it hasn't been left in gear before starting the engine.

@@DrPittenstein yes but you should know (as you seem a cautious driver) that it was parked in neutral and even if accidentally knocked your technique seems to be an OCD/muscle memory rather than purposefully as you then repeats the process before putting it in to a gear

Yes smallest BMW M car weighs near 1800kg now. Lightest Lotus is also 1500kg 🙁

Yes definitely tried all the modes, it’s clearer in the other Emira video as I edited the footage down for the Evora comparison.

Thanks, much appreciate the encouragement 👍 also long wait for Emiras in the UK but plenty of cars for sale in showrooms with very low miles. Could be a good option or maybe an Evora GT while you wait.

I would obviously like to see Lotus being successful which of course requires producing and selling many more cars however I don't believe it requires them to abandon their founding ethos. Lightweight engineering and innovation are just as relevant today as they ever were, more so in fact as it naturally delivers efficiency. I believe it's possible to appeal to larger numbers of people with a lightweight car relative to the competition and if an SUV is essential make sure it's the lightest in its class, that will ensure it's the best to drive.

@@DrPittenstein don’t you think that’s what they’ve done? (On the whole) disclaimer obviously! 😂

@@meenboli no sadly not the mostly steel Cayman is lighter than the Emira, the Eletre is no lighter than any other eSUV and neither are associated with any ground breaking innovation.

@@DrPittenstein Fair enough - not sure the Emira was supposed to be ground breaking - just a Lotus that more people would desire - in that they have definitely succeeded. The Eletre is very very nice inside - and about the same money as other equally nice SUV's - albeit supposedly with a more Lotus-like ride. My issue with electric cars is that (Tesla aside) - we started at the top. Using the Taycan as an example, there's nowhere to go other than increasing the range - the first model already went as fast as you'd want to go. I fear that with electric cars the ground breaking has already been done. I'll be proven wrong I'm sure - but also, I'm not so sure.

Claim about being easier to maintain due to 'smarter' body panels has no substance to it that I know about. Emira does have a wider front track and same width tyres as euro GT430 but US Evora GT has significantly more downforce especially if fitted with carbon rear engine cover (Lotus claimed 64kg for the Sport 410 which was twice what an Evora 400 made, no factory claim for Emira other than it has 'some' downforce) so find that hard to believe that the Emira had any advantage in 'high G corners'. It is interesting to note that Lotus never published a Hethel lap time for the Emira, we have to wonder why. If it was so much quicker than the outgoing Evora then surely Lotus would have wanted to make that known.

Few Evoras were alike, many had bespoke touches which all came to an end with the Emira, Lotus had to take a more automated, cookie cutter approach to reduce production costs.

You're very welcome, it took longer than I anticipated to edit together but a nice record of some of the joy anyone who has driven a Lotus can relate to. Might see if I can do something similar for the Elise!

Some first car! Either one will blow you away, maybe an Impreza might be cheaper to run the Evo is meant to be serviced twice every year! A solid, well maintained example of either car, especially one that is still close to stock should be reliable. Rally cars are built tough!

Not many cars sound as good. I prefer the Evora V6 sound to quite a few V8s.

Lots of material out there to add but might do an Exige or Elise compliation next.

Thanks Doc, you're on pole position, fastest keyboard in the West!

@@DrPittenstein LOL

I think that this car speaks a universal language. The Evora is definitely peak Lotus.

@@gustavfenk4021 my thoughts exactly 👍

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A 430 Evora is definitely more exciting so is a 410 but Emira is exciting enough for most, those looking for excitement tend to go for Exige.

Many thanks much appreciated 🫡

Only if you are prepared to lose your warranty and spend a a lot to make it worth less than a standard car. Much better to start with a cheaper car that is out of warranty.

Only if you are prepared to lose your warranty and spend a a lot to make it worth less than a standard car. Much better to start with a cheaper car that is out of warranty.

Fools or those so wealthy they don’t care about depreciation I guess? They may as well have one of each. I’m very old school as I still think £100k is a lot to spend on a car!

Thanks, the plan is to produce as many Emiras in one year as the total number of Evoras produced in 15 years (around 6000). Still not sure how Lotus attracted so many new buyers especially given that the Emira isn’t really any more practical or useable (less so if you have kids), biggest difference is styling and interior tech so I guess that must be it? Still, for Evora owners it offers no gain in performance over where Lotus were in 2015 so not much point in trading in at great expense. Evora was an unrepeatable generational event produced and developed by a who’s-who of Lotus legends. What they achieved with a modest development budget remains extraordinary but also got my hopes up for what Lotus could achieve with a much larger budget. But different people this time round with different targets and priorities for the car. Great for lotus that it’s a commercial success but they haven’t surpassed the Evora as a driver’s car yet and possibly never will.

Very special car and huge (if still unappreciated) achievement by Lotus, conceived by a who’s who of Lotus legends under the watch of the great Mike Kimberley and developed by Roger Becker. Then later refined by Matt Becker and Gavan Kershaw who also raced it with great success. Unrepeatable event in Lotus history.

Yes I think I would prefer it, should transfer weight more smoothly but won’t deal with rough roads as well. Really reinforces my view that Emira should have come with adaptive or at least adjustable dampers.

Thanks. The shriek that car makes in a tunnel never gets old!

There must be some who have both but they are too similar for me. I went for Elise over Exige as a sidekick to the Evora for more contrast. Maybe manual Evora weekender alongside Emira 4cyl turbo auto daily could work better.

@@DrPittenstein Yep - I had Exige track cars and daily drove Evoras for nearly 10 years. Great combo. If I could justify now it I’d have a GT430 just for track days and daily the Emira. I think the rarity of Evoras make them very special.

I believe the Emira has much more pronounced supercharger whine than any Evora I’ve driven.

@@DrPittenstein Some superchargers make acceptable noises. Jaguar F Type v8 does not make powerdrill sound.

Mentioned Tour spec repeatedly including in the written description. I think I would prefer Sport chassis but accept it comes at the cost of the ride quality that Lotus were renouned for. Shame really when adjustable suspension (even if it was a cost option) could have offered both. Yes Evora 400 is very close to Emira V6 Tour but that is a criticism for me, Emira doesn’t offer more than 2015 Lotus performance.

Judging by the order books and production numbers it’s clear that many others share your view. As a long term Lotus owner I was expecting a step forward in driving dynamics but we got a step forward in interior tech and infotainment, seems to be exactly what many people wanted.

400/410/430/Emira all use the same Edelbrock 1720cc chargecooled blower. Emira is just more whiney in a good way. We’d notice the lower redline more without it. Sport and Race in 400/410 uses different ESP system which GT430 also has. GT430 is extra system is pure TC, doesn’t use brakes, retards ignition to control rear wheel overspeed to 5 settings between 1% and 12%. Level 5 is fully sideways. Exige Cup 380 and 430 have the same system but use rotary knob not + and - buttons.

Merci! Oui Exige 430 est la vérité!

Yes that’s the issue, the headline ‘£59k’ Emira Turbo that attracted so many orders is already past £80k, hard to see an S much under £100K and an R more like £120k.

Much appreciated 👍

It’s definitely wider but not lower. Evora GTE is a wide body Evora and at least as wide as Emira, maybe a bit more but GT430 kept the 400/410 standard width body

I like it more having driven it but it does not yet represent the best Lotus can do, it’s what they felt they needed to do to sell more cars - forget about lightweight, go for luxury, interior tech and cup holders. In that respect it has already been successful. Fair play to them but that doesn’t mean everyone has to like the direction they have gone. I never knew so many people wanted a Lotus with electric seats!

@@DrPittenstein I suffered when the new Elise/Exige became heavier, I liked the interior of the 1st Evora (cockpit & display) but it was also so heavy, then I liked the 1st Tesla Roadster, nowadays I accept the GT 430 as a great car, and I laughed hearing that Emira is consideresd as a Supercar. I put it in the Europa drawer :-) Lotus Suv, an amazing paradox, should I laugh or cry!

@@DrPittensteinIf only the Evora and Emira could’ve been, say, 2700lbs.

@@craigyirush3492 Emira could have been lighter than an Evora but unless a lot more buyers start caring about weight it wouldn't have sold them any more cars. 12 way electric seats doesn't appear to have put anyone off except me! BMW M cars have never been heavier, new M2 is nearly 1800kg but they've also never sold so well. Madness for a 'sports car' but shows where the wider market is at. This should have been a golden age of lightweight engineering in the search for better efficiency but instead it's gone in the opposite direction.

@@DrPittenstein Agree, customers don’t care about weight. I guess I’ve been puzzled why, starting with that lightweight aluminum chassis/platform, they couldn’t make a car that weighed ~2700-2800lbs and still have creature comforts (the Exige uses the same chassis and is, what, 700lbs lighter). Imagine the improvement in handling and overall performance! Think it might have been a selling point too.

Thanks for watching and for the encouragement. Hope you get on well with the Evora.

Yes, and I hate that tablet stuck on the dash look (even if it’s more functional).

@@craigyirush3492 yes already dated for me, much prefer integrated screens or better still screens that can disappear. The Bentley revolving dash is great as you can choose between a screen or 3 analogue guages.

@@DrPittenstein I’d even prefer a smaller screen integrated into the dash, like the Giulia Ti Sport I had, or the one in my current car, a Hemi Challenger. They’re a bit smaller, but look good, and do everything you need (CarPlay, Nav, Vehicle info). The Challenger even has line lock and other drag racing stuff in the center screen!

Depends, if you want a more analog feel in a lighter, faster car, go with the Evora. If you want something more refined, like a 911, go with the Emira

Lotus fans saying Evora better car but Emira better daily.

Evora 410 definitely for me as a weekend car but if you love the looks of the Emira as most do and find the Evora interior too old school then Emira is close enough as a driver’s car to be the right choice for you.

Very much agree 👍

Do you prefer your Evora or the Emira?

Mine aren’t too bad, I definitely wouldn’t swap them for the easier Sparco seats they feel too high for me now I’m used to sitting down much lower, must be 2” lower at least.

BS. I guess you have both cars…right. I do. And I can tell you that both of these are better than each other in quite a few areas.

@@davidsparavec8996 Excuse me? I have no idea what you are saying.

⁠@@davidsparavec8996check out @Docinaplane’s channel, let’s just say his is no ordinary Evora GT!

@@DrPittenstein Appreciate you, Sir!

They started with the 410 to develop the Emira

Evora 410 would be my choice, I wouldn’t say it’s way quicker but definitely quicker than 10bhp might suggest.

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